Overaged Posted July 14, 2010 Posted July 14, 2010 What train are you & Tom talking about? I don't see no train stories in the Bible. Quote "People [rarely] see...the bright light which is in the clouds..." (Job 37:21)"I cannot know why suddenly the stormshould rage so fiercely round me in it's wrathBut this I know: God watches all my pathAnd I can trust""God helps us to draw strength from the storm" - OveragedFaith makes things possible; it does not make them easy, Steps To Christ
Neil D Posted July 14, 2010 Posted July 14, 2010 You left this out in quoting me: Apostasy is fatal, but heresy may or may not be. It is not my business to judge whether someone is saved or not. However, how can you warn someone of danger if you don't know what is safe and what is dangerous? So, are we talking "standards" again? What would be the standard for heresy? What is the standard for Apostasy? I'll bet that no one thinks that a dropped relationship with Jesus would qualify as a standard for both, would they? If we let Jesus do the relationship thingy with us, why would we be so concerned with others? Wouldn't there be more of a tolerance to personalities, an a softening influence upon the individual? Over time, that softening influence might just change a person's personality, and character.... ...would that be termed as "heresy" or "Apostasy"? Quote Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be governed no better than we deserve. George Bernard Shaw
Moderators Gerr Posted July 14, 2010 Moderators Posted July 14, 2010 Apostasy = turning your back on Christ/God, a renouncing what you once believed. Heresy = turning your back on a fundamental belief of the church you belong to. One can have a "dropped relationship" and still believe ALL the fundamentals. I think that's what they mean. Quote
olger Posted July 14, 2010 Posted July 14, 2010 I still like Steps to Christ much better. og Quote "Please don't feed the drama queens.."
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