The great "Ground Zero mosque" hoax

[jasd]

>>I will praise the Lord Jesus if they build this mosque.<<

"Verily, the likeness of Jesus in God's Sight is the likeness of Adam. He (God) created him from dust, then (He) said to him: ‘Be!'-and he was" (Quran 3:59).

“There is none worthy of worship but Allah.” (the Kalima)

“He that is not with me is against me.” (Lu 11:23)

May Gd look favorably upon you – your intentions are your own.

>>It will mean there still is some love and tolerance in this world.<<

All things have their own place – for Gd is not the author of confusion.

>>I am all about love. I think God is that way too.<<

Ahh, the vagaries of [English] love – listing wherever it will... Gd is about agape.

[Dr. Shane]

[rudywoofs (Pam)]

Let it be.

[Tom Wetmore]

This song by Paul McCartney should be the final word on this whole topic - Just let it be.

There is much wisdom in the message of this song and it's history. Let It Be was the final Beatles album. Paul McCartney closed his 2001 "Concert for New York" benefit concert for the victims, with this song. It is all about putting the past and all its troubles behind us and moving on.

Let It Be

[fccool]

We should call out the hypocrisy that kind of fuels it all So, why not conclude with some liberally-slanted humor

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[Tom Wetmore]

I was going to post this but you beat me to it!

[BAH]

While you presented facts, they are not truthful.

The State Department is funding Rauf mid-east relations tour, with our tax dollars.

Yes it is a victory flag for Muslims, attack on America.

If you read your constitution there is no clause for separation of church and state.

Rauf is known for his ties Jihad.

Our moral cowardice will bring this nation to it's knees.

The Mosque is not a hoax, it is for real. Just gives further inroads in America.

Islam has one goal that is to make it a world religion. Infidels will either convert or be killed ( infidels meaning Christian and Jews).

Would you approve the KKK to build their headquarters on the site where Martin Luther King was slain?

People in Germany in the 30's failed to take Naziism seriously. History tells the rest of that story.

We need to morally oppose the Mosque. Drop our pc attitude.

[fccool]

Rauf is known for his ties Jihad.

So is Fox news, and George Bush apparently...

[jasd]

That kid can play!!!

(oops, was replying to Shane, I thought)

Anyway, "Let it be" is apropos re those who won't recognize the sensitivities of the American peoples re Ground Zero.

[jasd]

I’m forwarding JR Nyquist once more, as it is to the point...

“No country for silly men.” --JR Nyquist

[jasd]

>>So is Fox news,<<

Like Fox News.

>>George Bush apparently...<<

Yes, missing Dubya.

[jasd]

"We tend to forget, in the West, that the United States has more Muslim blood on its hands than al Qaida has on its hands of innocent non Muslims.” --Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf (speaking of America)

“...this does not justify your actions of terrorism. It's hard. Yes, it is true that it does not justify the acts of bombing innocent civilians, that does not solve the problem, but after 50 years of, in many cases, oppression, of US support of authoritarian regimes that have violated human rights in the most heinous of ways,” --Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf (speaking of America)

It just grinches me to have people come here to our shores, take the best that is offered – and run off at the mouth about the shortcomings of misbegotten America and her peoples.

This is the sort of thing that simply shuts down “bridge-building” (read:mosque) before it begins... “BRIDGE-BUILDING” my fundament!—it’s simply another ******* saying, “In your face, infidel!”

[phkrause]

I was going to post this but you beat me to it!

[jasd]

>>Tell us how you really feel!<<

Can’t. Writ advises against declaring as to be heard but not understood…

Otherwise, I post vigorously; y’know, whatsoever thine hand findeth to do…

>>(I knew the sky was falling<<

No, non, mon, not the sky, but your house and mine – America.

>>and those Jesuits are to blame,<<

Wrong. I am not the one to lay blame to the Jesuits – not that schizoid, yet.

>>they have infiltrated everyones brain and made us see moons and stars everywhere....<<

“moons and stars everywhere….” that’s Jesuits!?—where is it grown and how much per a boom thing cola?

>>or was that hammer and cycle<<

Don’t know from “hammer and cycle”, but lemme tell yous ‘bout the hammer and sickle” – even Jeremiah prophesied ‘bout that!

>>…any way between the illegals, muslims and whatever else, yeah them too...in a hand basket)<<

Maybe, preferably, in the last train outta town?

Hey!—check this out – Re: moderate Islam. “It doesn’t exist.” -- Mosab Hassan Yousef (son of Hama founder)

Oh, but y’alls would rather your ears, or whatever, be tickled – instead, yes? :-(

So sad.

[fccool]

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"We tend to forget, in the West, that the United States has more Muslim blood on its hands than al Qaida has on its hands of innocent non Muslims.” --Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf (speaking of America)

“...this does not justify your actions of terrorism. It's hard. Yes, it is true that it does not justify the acts of bombing innocent civilians, that does not solve the problem, but after 50 years of, in many cases, oppression, of US support of authoritarian regimes that have violated human rights in the most heinous of ways,” --Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf (speaking of America)

Please watch this, and please understand what's being talked about here... then, do some research on topic... read some Noam Chomski, Howard Zinn and likes. Stay away from FOX news for a bit... and perhaps you can begin putting the above quotes in their proper context of talking about American policy, rather than American people.

[BAH]

The Mosque is indeed a victory Mosque. Rauf has said that this will further establish Islam in America, that it will help us reach our goal America becoming Islamic

[fccool]

Wow! The goal of Islam is to spread Islam????? NO WAY! It would almost be like our goals of sending missionaries to Christianize other nations. Amazing!

We should certainly not allow people to do in our country what we fight for in other countries. That would be unfair. We and we only should be able to spread our religion to those who are willing!

STOP THAT MOSQUE!

[Stan]

they have claimed that the goal of adventism is to spread adventism....

WHERE WOULD THEY GET THAT FROM?????

[phkrause]

they have claimed that the goal of adventism is to spread adventism....

WHERE WOULD THEY GET THAT FROM?????

Very good point Stan.....

[lazarus]

Hey!—check this out – Re: moderate Islam. “It doesn’t exist.” -- Mosab Hassan Yousef (son of Hama founder)

Oh, but y’alls would rather your ears, or whatever, be tickled – instead, yes? :-(

So sad.

LOL! Not surprising that he would say that. Doesn't prove much. Maybe if General Zia had said it.

[jasd]

>>Please watch this, and please understand what's being talked about here...<<

Sorry, I couldn’t get my sound to work – so haven’t the foggiest as to what they’re talking about. I’ll get back to that – as soon as I get a chance to listen to it.

>>…then, do some research on topic...<<

Don’t know what the topic was about.

>>…read some Noam Chomski, Howard Zinn and likes.<<

Been there, done that. I first began to be aware of Chomski after listening to him on an awards show many years ago – after which I found out more about him whilst flirting with the John Birch Society. Sheesh, let me say that I much more admire – by bunches – the Birchers, than I ever could the likes of Chomski. Given the man is brilliant, however, so was Marx, Tolstoy, Lenin, et al… Am not acquainted with Zinn, but would hazard that he is a fellow traveler of Chomski’s.

Marxist Socialism: Anathema!

>>Stay away from FOX news for a bit...<<

And do what?—get my current events from the likes of ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC, and sundry other Main Stream shills? Thanks, but no thanks! Getting their information from the aforementioned led to Americans voting in the present POTUS!

>>…and perhaps you can begin putting the above quotes in their proper context of talking about American policy, rather than American people.<<

Context?—you mean there was a subtext to the quotes of Rauf? Funny that he did not make the distinction you’ve made. It would have been easy enough, but then he may simply have forgotten to make the supposed distinction.

I am put to mind the Biblical Seminars that rag on Catholics – following-up quickly with the disclaimer that, “No, we do not speak of the many good people within the Church, but of the System, the Pope, the Cardinals, the priesthood…, blah, blah, blah.”

It’s like the ghetto rap “Your mama!” – (…not you bro, you be good. No no no, not your sister. No no no, y’know what I mean, bro!)

[jasd]

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Hey!—check this out – Re: moderate Islam. “It doesn’t exist.” -- Mosab Hassan Yousef (son of Hamas founder) [ed.jasd]

Oh, but y’alls would rather your ears, or whatever, be tickled – instead, yes? :-(

So sad.

Quote:lazarus

LOL! Not surprising that he would say that. Doesn't prove much. Maybe if General Zia had said it.

Why do you surmise it not surprising that Mosab Hassan Yousef would say what he said?—or is your statement the sort of kneejerk reaction I’ve come to expect of you?—when the subject is America and her peoples v the certifiably good peoples of the rest of Gd’s creation…

[jasd]

>>STOP THAT MOSQUE!<<

Who turned on your lightbulb?

[fccool]

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Marxist Socialism: Anathema!

I am put to mind the Biblical Seminars that rag on Catholics – following-up quickly with the disclaimer that, “No, we do not speak of the many good people within the Church, but of the System, the Pope, the Cardinals, the priesthood…, blah, blah, blah.”

It’s like the ghetto rap “Your mama!” – (…not you bro, you be good. No no no, not your sister. No no no, y’know what I mean, bro!)

[M. T. Cross]

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Quote:Shane

I am just amazed that so many right-wingers want to give up religious liberty and private property rights so easily.

“religious liberty”? the old Norse religion of Wotan and Thor – a la Hitler, etc..., practicing their beliefs here, whatever they entailed? If you don’t – the sane amongst us dismiss you.

You might want to brush up on your history a little. Hitler used what he chose from Christianity as much as he did from what is now called Asatru (or Heathenry)

Read up a bit on what the followers of the Norse Gods believe and how they choose to live thier lives and you will find you really put them in the wrong catagory of people.