ClubV12 Posted May 15, 2011 Posted May 15, 2011 It's all about the detail's miz3, as I posted on the other thread. The IJ itself is quite clear from the bible. But like many things in the bible, you'll need additional sources of information to fill in the blanks. Ellen White is one of several good sources for that. Quote
miz3 Posted May 15, 2011 Author Posted May 15, 2011 The end result? A foundation based on the bible, and the bible alone! There is no mystery here. Quote
ClubV12 Posted May 15, 2011 Posted May 15, 2011 miz3 says, "That is amazing!" What is amazing is that understanding how biblical interpretation works is so difficult for you to grasp. Rarely is new understanding given to a single person, it is in virtually every case, the Spirit working through multiple sources. If you want to discount any single source, like Hiram Edson in this case, fine. Other sources remain, pointing to the bible. The doctrine won't be confirmed or denied by ONE man or woman. In ALL cases doctrine is a work of many minds coming together, reviewing, studying, comparing and reaching a conclusion based on the bible. I get the impression that YOU don't need anybody or any outside source for YOUR understanding and correct interpretation of scripture? That the Holy Spirit alone is able to guide you and reveal these things with no outside help of any kind? That you can stand on the bible and the bible alone because your smarter than everybody else who has to rely on the counsel of others. How sad is that, a person in need of nothing or nobody except his bible alone to determine his own foundation, alone. Quote
miz3 Posted May 15, 2011 Author Posted May 15, 2011 I get the impression that YOU don't need anybody or any outside source for YOUR understanding and correct interpretation of scripture? That the Holy Spirit alone is able to guide you and reveal these things with no outside help of any kind? That you can stand on the bible and the bible alone because your smarter than everybody else who has to rely on the counsel of others. How sad is that, a person in need of nothing or nobody except his bible alone to determine his own foundation, alone. After the strikethroughs your statement is now correct! See 1Corinthians 2:6-16! Alright, I will quote it here: "We do, however, speak a message of wisdom among the mature, but not the wisdom of this age or of the rulers of this age, who are coming to nothing. 7 No, we speak of God’s secret wisdom, a wisdom that has been hidden and that God destined for our glory before time began. 8 None of the rulers of this age understood it, for if they had, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory. 9 However, as it is written: “No eye has seen, no ear has heard, no mind has conceived what God has prepared for those who love him”— 10 but God has revealed it to us by his Spirit. The Spirit searches all things, even the deep things of God. 11 For who among men knows the thoughts of a man except the man’s spirit within him? In the same way no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God. 12 We have not received the spirit of the world but the Spirit who is from God, that we may understand what God has freely given us. 13 This is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom but in words taught by the Spirit, expressing spiritual truths in spiritual words.[c] 14 The man without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned. 15 The spiritual man makes judgments about all things, but he himself is not subject to any man’s judgment: 16 “For who has known the mind of the Lord that he may instruct him?”[d] But we have the mind of Christ." 1Corinthians 2:6-16. Its not about being smarter. You see when we are given the mind of Christ by the Holy Spirit we don't need outside sources. We don't need "point and go". Quote
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