Moderators John317 Posted July 20, 2011 Moderators Posted July 20, 2011 The Lord has not revealed the dating of His intervention OK, but I am not asking for a date. I am asking about events, if any, that you believe the Bible predicts will be the fulfillment of the prophecies you're talking about. You said I will know you are right. What will happen that will show me you are right? Quote John 3:16-17 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. [17] For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him.
Truth Files Posted July 21, 2011 Author Posted July 21, 2011 This will be the first one [Revelation 6:12-17] You will know nothing [if you are still living at the time] until the above event happens [1Thessalonians 5:3; Matthew 24:36-39; Luke 21:35] .... when it does you will know that you are under the Lord's judgment upon the earth And then all of the balance of the events recorded for the 70th week decreed will follow exactly as they are written in the related prophetic visions Quote Stephen - Author - Truth Files
Lysimachus Posted July 21, 2011 Posted July 21, 2011 Originally Posted By: Truth Files The Lord has not revealed the dating of His intervention OK, but I am not asking for a date. I am asking about events, if any, that you believe the Bible predicts will be the fulfillment of the prophecies you're talking about. You said I will know you are right. What will happen that will show me you are right? Most Dispensationalists will tell you "when you see the 3rd Temple being rebuilt". But I'm not sure, because Truth Files seems to not believe in a Third rebuilt Temple, from what I'm gathering. He believes in a literal earthly Millennium Temple though. Quote ~Lysimachus (Marcos S.) Author of article, Vindicating the Year-Day Principle of Prophetic Interpretation (see attachment for article) Currently writing a book, Vindicating the Historical School of Prophetic Interpretation Founder of the largest and fastest SDA Apologetics Group on Facebook, Seventh-Day Adventism - Defending the Pillars of the Faith Writer and apologetics contributor at Adventist Defense League Vindicating the Year-Day Principle of Prophetic Interpretation.pdf
Truth Files Posted July 21, 2011 Author Posted July 21, 2011 There will be no temple of the Lord's on the mount during the coming 70 week according to scripture .... this idea is pure speculation and with no scriptural evidence [Matthew 24:1-2; Revelation 11:2] His next temple on the earth will be built for His millennial rule on the earth just after the ending of the 70th week [Ezekiel 40-48] There will no signs or events that can be used to predict the beginning of the period of His hour [time] of trial and judgment .... absolutely none Satan's beast in the little horn will sit in a temple of his "god" at the middle of the 70th week .... this temple is already on the mount today .... and a remnant part of Israel has already returned for the purpose of experiencing the coming 70th week .... the time of Jacob's trouble But the Lord is still waiting until He is ready to pull the trigger .... at a moment that no one can predict by any means Quote Stephen - Author - Truth Files
Moderators John317 Posted July 21, 2011 Moderators Posted July 21, 2011 Do you believe that a person must understand Ezekiel 38, 39 a partiuclar way in order to be saved in God's kingdom when Christ returns? What if a person loves Jesus Christ with his whole heart and strength and is living up to all the knowledge that God has given him? Will he be lost if he has a different understanding of some of the prophecies than you have? Quote John 3:16-17 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. [17] For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him.
Truth Files Posted July 21, 2011 Author Posted July 21, 2011 Absolutely not .... one's salvation does not depend upon an accurate understanding of the prophetic scriptures By faith is one saved .... by His grace and by His willingness and ability to save them ..... nothing else One must believe this and must seek and continue in a willing relationship with Jesus Christ .... He does the saving He has given His prophetic word for assurance to the believer and for a witness to the unbeliever .... the proof that the Bible is what it claims to be the world of the living God [2Peter 1:16-21] Quote Stephen - Author - Truth Files
Moderators John317 Posted July 21, 2011 Moderators Posted July 21, 2011 One must believe this and must seek and continue in a willing relationship with Jesus Christ .... He does the saving What does Christ save us from? Can I be a practicing gay person-- that is, in a relationship with a man-- and at the same time be saved? Quote John 3:16-17 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. [17] For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him.
Truth Files Posted July 21, 2011 Author Posted July 21, 2011 From eternal death [John 3:16-18] He is against the perversion of homosexuality among other kinds of reprobate human behavior If one is in this state they must turn from the practice in order to be saved, but this willing change will generally not come about by one's own efforts alone and one needs the power of His holy spirit transformation He can and will remove the desire from one to practice homosexuality if one is willing to turn their life over to Him Quote Stephen - Author - Truth Files
Moderators John317 Posted July 21, 2011 Moderators Posted July 21, 2011 ...If one is in this state they must turn from the practice in order to be saved, but this willing change will generally not come about by one own efforts alone and one needs the power of His holy spirit transformation He can and will remove the desire from one to practice homosexuality if one is willing to turn their life over to Him OK, I actually agree with you. But in this case, you are saying that one's life and one's behavior does indeed affect one's salvation. God will not save people who are continuing to violate His will in the area of homosexuality, right? In other words, let's say that I claim to love the Lord and want to be in His kingdom, but I don't believe I ought to have to give up a relationship that I have with my gay husband. Would that be all right? (There are many gay people who think this very kind of thing, so it is not merely theoretical.) As a Christian, what would you tell me in this instance? Quote John 3:16-17 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. [17] For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him.
Lysimachus Posted July 21, 2011 Posted July 21, 2011 There will be no temple of the Lord's on the mount during the coming 70 week according to scripture .... this idea is pure speculation and with no scriptural evidence [Matthew 24:1-2; Revelation 11:2] His next temple on the earth will be built for His millennial rule on the earth just after the ending of the 70th week [Ezekiel 40-48] There will no signs or events that can be used to predict the beginning of the period of His hour [time] of trial and judgment .... absolutely none Satan's beast in the little horn will sit in a temple of his "god" at the middle of the 70th week .... this temple is already on the mount today .... and a remnant part of Israel has already returned for the purpose of experiencing the coming 70th week .... the time of Jacob's trouble But the Lord is still waiting until He is ready to pull the trigger .... at a moment that no one can predict by any means The so called "Millennium Temple" of Ezekiel 40-48 is actually a miniature model representation of the Heavenly Temple in the New Jerusalem, after it comes down to earth: Ezekiel's City: Calculating the Circumference of the Earth Does Dispensationalism Allow to Be Fulfilled The Very Prophecies It says Must Be Fulfilled? By comparing Ezekiel's city with Revelation's New Jerusalem, it provides a way to calculate the precise circumference of the earth from the Scriptures. Also, upon close investigation, you will discover that Ezekiel’s prophecy concerning the city he saw was a small scale model of the earth made new, while the Temple was outside of the city a minimum of 5,000 cubits away to the north. Hence, in technical terminology, Ezekiel’s city, temple, and map were types or symbols of the antitypical New Jerusalem, Temple, and New Earth of Revelation. Otherwise, if the prophecy is to be fulfilled as it reads to the literal land of Palestine, the Temple must be rebuilt outside Jerusalem to the north (Ezek. 45:1-6), and Jerusalem would need to be totally rebuilt in the form of a perfect square, with three gates to a side (Ezek 48:31-34). Not to mention the entire reconstruction of the city measurements given by Ezekiel. Can the entire city of present-day Jerusalem be reconstructed to these dimensions within a period of 3 ½ to 7 years? Sound reason and logic demand this an impossibility, if not wild speculation. Dispensationalists truly have a major problem on their hands, and this is without even mentioning the scores of insurmountable difficulties we have not as of yet even begun to scratch the surface of. Therefore, when we understand Old Testament prophecies with these lenses, we see therefore how many of these prophecies (such as sacrifices, and feast keeping) will no longer be fulfilled in detail to the literal nation of Israel, rather, "antitypically" to the worldwide body of saints. The sacrifices have met their end at Christ's death (antitypically), and feast keeping will be kept literally, in heaven, at the great supper of the Lamb. The "New Moons" (meaning, monthly) will be celebrated when we convene at the Tree of Life once a month. (See Revelation 22:2 [Antitype] and crossreference with Isaiah 66:23 [Type]) This is why we see in Revelation that there is "no temple" within the New Jerusalem. Because this Temple is moved outside of the city to the north on Mount Zion. Now we now why in Ellen White's vision of the new earth in Early Writings page 19, she saw the temple on Mount Zion at a distance from the New Jerusalem. These things that Ellen White saw are actually revealing the antitypical realization of Ezekiel's so called "millennium" temple. However, what Ezekiel saw will no longer transpire in its typical sense, but antitypical sense. Neither will it occur during the millennium. But AFTER the millennium. Quote ~Lysimachus (Marcos S.) Author of article, Vindicating the Year-Day Principle of Prophetic Interpretation (see attachment for article) Currently writing a book, Vindicating the Historical School of Prophetic Interpretation Founder of the largest and fastest SDA Apologetics Group on Facebook, Seventh-Day Adventism - Defending the Pillars of the Faith Writer and apologetics contributor at Adventist Defense League Vindicating the Year-Day Principle of Prophetic Interpretation.pdf
ClubV12 Posted July 21, 2011 Posted July 21, 2011 Waht is this belief in the 70 weeks being placed in the future counterfit as to the real truth? It seems to be a fairly widely held misunderstanding, with some variations of the theme. Some say it's tied to the rapture fallacy and such things, a lot of different opinions and interpretations. So I assume the evil one is counterfiting something, but what? Quote
cheddar Posted July 21, 2011 Posted July 21, 2011 OK, I actually agree with you. But in this case, you are saying that one's life and one's behavior does indeed affect one's salvation. God will not save people who are continuing to violate His will in the area of homosexuality, right? In other words, let's say that I claim to love the Lord and want to be in His kingdom, but I don't believe I ought to have to give up a relationship that I have with my gay husband. Would that be all right? (There are many gay people who think this very kind of thing, so it is not merely theoretical.) As a Christian, what would you tell me in this instance? John, are you really gay? I wasn't sure if this topic was 'out of bounds' but since you brought it up I guess it's not. It would be very hard to tell someone that they can't be gay, especially someone like you who already knows all the bible verses and SOP counsels. I personally feel that the new covenant gives us freedom to do ‘all things’, but if by my actions I cause someone to stumble or bring shame upon my profession then I shouldn’t do those things. This would be something that you, your husband and the Lord would have to address and I would never try to come across as condemning. Quote
Lysimachus Posted July 21, 2011 Posted July 21, 2011 Originally Posted By: John317 OK, I actually agree with you. But in this case, you are saying that one's life and one's behavior does indeed affect one's salvation. God will not save people who are continuing to violate His will in the area of homosexuality, right? In other words, let's say that I claim to love the Lord and want to be in His kingdom, but I don't believe I ought to have to give up a relationship that I have with my gay husband. Would that be all right? (There are many gay people who think this very kind of thing, so it is not merely theoretical.) As a Christian, what would you tell me in this instance? John, are you really gay? I wasn't sure if this topic was 'out of bounds' but since you brought it up I guess it's not. It would be very hard to tell someone that they can't be gay, especially someone like you who already knows all the bible verses and SOP counsels. I personally feel that the new covenant gives us freedom to do ‘all things’, but if by my actions I cause someone to stumble or bring shame upon my profession then I shouldn’t do those things. This would be something that you, your husband and the Lord would have to address and I would never try to come across as condemning. Sounds like John is just giving an example. He said "let's say". Quote ~Lysimachus (Marcos S.) Author of article, Vindicating the Year-Day Principle of Prophetic Interpretation (see attachment for article) Currently writing a book, Vindicating the Historical School of Prophetic Interpretation Founder of the largest and fastest SDA Apologetics Group on Facebook, Seventh-Day Adventism - Defending the Pillars of the Faith Writer and apologetics contributor at Adventist Defense League Vindicating the Year-Day Principle of Prophetic Interpretation.pdf
Truth Files Posted July 21, 2011 Author Posted July 21, 2011 "As a Christian, what would you tell me in this instance?" >You would have to give up your life style which is unacceptable to the Lord in order for Him to save you [Romans 1:18-28] >There are many vices of human behavior which stand in the way of the Lord's salvation [all are just as prohibitive].... but if one genuinely turns to Him, He will provide the power to remove the thing which He will not accept >He can take away the desire so that one will not crave the vice and therefore can move away from it >This process may take some time, but He can and will provide the strength necessary for one to abandon the homosexual life style as long as the person is willing to be changed >Similar examples of the more difficult vices to break are addictions to to drugs, pedophilia, gambling, and the love of money >I know of examples of those who have walked away from homosexuality by the power of the Lord's holy spirit Quote Stephen - Author - Truth Files
Moderators John317 Posted July 21, 2011 Moderators Posted July 21, 2011 >You would have to give up your life style which is unacceptable to the Lord in order for Him to save you [Romans 1:18-28] >There are many vices of human behavior which stand in the way of the Lord's salvation [all are just as prohibitive].... but if one genuinely turns to Him, He will provide the power to remove the thing which He will not accept Why is what you wrote NOT legalism and works-righteousness? Wouldn't someone have a right to remind you that we are not saved by our works but only by God's grace without works of the law? You seem to be saying that if we have truly and genuinely turned to Christ, we won't do those things. Is that what you're saying? Quote John 3:16-17 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. [17] For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him.
Aliensanctuary Posted July 21, 2011 Posted July 21, 2011 Tnx for not deleting TF's posts. TF has, it seems, worked hard and long to arrive at a prophetic understanding that is more comprehensive than any I have seen to date. The problem is that our 1844 sunglasses are just too dark, leading us to ignore OT prophecies that must come true, whether our Founding Fore-Parents paid any attention to them, or not. I don't know why there would be a gap before the 70th week, since I believe that all seventy "sevens" will occur in the future, in a matter of weeks, not thousands of years. As I see it, Gogue and Magogue must attack Israel just before the 1K years in order for Israel to spend seven years burning their attacker's weapons. Gogue and Magogue appear again after the resurrection at the end of the 1K years, attack the beloved city, and are permanently destroyed by fire from the sky. Quote The Parable of the Lamb and the Pigpen https://www.createspace.com/3401451
ClubV12 Posted July 21, 2011 Posted July 21, 2011 Alien, sounds like your wearing rose colored glasses, I'll keep my 1844 glasses, thank you. :) Quote
Truth Files Posted July 21, 2011 Author Posted July 21, 2011 You seem to be saying that if we have truly and genuinely turned to Christ, we won't do those things. Is that what you're saying? >Yes .... and this will be evidence of a true conversion >It is the Lord who must transform in the case of homosexuality .... this is not something that one can do on their own .... so it is not a matter of personal works >The saved individual will be able to move away from the vice and to cease the practice completely .... but not by their own power >He will do this, but one must be willing to give it up and to put Him first in their life with nothing standing in the way >The change may come immediately, but more than likely it will take some time .... some people have very strong wills and are unable to submit to His healing power at the point of decision to give up the vice .... particularly in the case of homosexuality >Actually one must be willing to give up any and all things of the natural man and to follow His will .... in place of their own >This is not an easy thing to do, but nothing else will work regarding one's salvation >There is a way that seems right to a man that will only bring him death and we can easily deceive ourselves >It must be His way .... and nothing that one can do on their own Quote Stephen - Author - Truth Files
Moderators John317 Posted July 21, 2011 Moderators Posted July 21, 2011 OK, I actually agree with you. But in this case, you are saying that one's life and one's behavior does indeed affect one's salvation. God will not save people who are continuing to violate His will in the area of homosexuality, right? In other words, let's say that I claim to love the Lord and want to be in His kingdom, but I don't believe I ought to have to give up a relationship that I have with my gay husband. Would that be all right? (There are many gay people who think this very kind of thing, so it is not merely theoretical.) As a Christian, what would you tell me in this instance? Originally Posted By: cheddar John, are you really gay? I wasn't sure if this topic was 'out of bounds' but since you brought it up I guess it's not. It would be very hard to tell someone that they can't be gay, especially someone like you who already knows all the bible verses and SOP counsels. See: http://clubadventist.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/165910/12.html Also: http://clubadventist.com/forum/ubbthread...s.html#comments I was active as a gay person for most of my adult life. I'm no longer living that way as of about 2004. Quote John 3:16-17 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. [17] For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him.
Truth Files Posted July 21, 2011 Author Posted July 21, 2011 The Lord has greatly blessed you John317 Quote Stephen - Author - Truth Files
Moderators John317 Posted July 21, 2011 Moderators Posted July 21, 2011 Yes, He has, and the reason I sometimes talk about it is that people who are struggling with things can know that God has the power for us to get out of any pit of wickedness that we are in. I don't talk to anyone about it except on the Forum, and I didn't say anything about it here until someone convinced me that there are people who need to know because they might be in the same kind of need and not know God can help them. Quote John 3:16-17 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. [17] For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him.
Moderators John317 Posted July 21, 2011 Moderators Posted July 21, 2011 TF has, it seems, worked hard and long to arrive at a prophetic understanding that is more comprehensive than any I have seen to date. The problem is that our 1844 sunglasses are just too dark, leading us to ignore OT prophecies that must come true, whether our Founding Fore-Parents paid any attention to them, or not. It sounds like you're saying that it'd be better if we would forget all about 1844 and what our church's Founding Fathers taught us and forget what Ellen White wrote. If that's the case, why not quit being SDA altogether? Are you sure our Founding Father's didn't have it right about the OT prophecies? Where did they go wrong in a major way, you think? Quote John 3:16-17 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. [17] For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him.
miz3 Posted July 21, 2011 Posted July 21, 2011 You are wrong to say that SDAs-- that is the SDA Church-- claim the title and position of "God's people" exclusive to all other people. You're misunderstanding the position of the SDA Church. We believe that at this time God has honest and sincere people in all churches, not excepting the RRC. So we do not claim to be the only people of God. Being one of God's people is not simply by becoming a member of a church. It's a matter of the mind and heart, whether one is truly committed to Christ and His truth. Some members of the SDA church, then, may not be in the truest sense of the word one of God's people. Quote
miz3 Posted July 21, 2011 Posted July 21, 2011 Can I be a practicing gay person-- that is, in a relationship with a man-- and at the same time be saved? Are you saying that all practicing gays will be lost? Quote
Moderators John317 Posted July 21, 2011 Moderators Posted July 21, 2011 Originally Posted By: John317 Can I be a practicing gay person-- that is, in a relationship with a man-- and at the same time be saved? Are you saying that all practicing gays will be lost? 1 Cor. 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, 6:10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. 6:11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God. 1 Tim. 1:9 Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, 1:10 For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine; 1:11 According to the glorious gospel of the blessed God, which was committed to my trust. 2 Peter 2:6 And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned [them] with an overthrow, making [them] an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly; 2:7 And delivered just Lot, vexed with the filthy conversation of the wicked: 2:8 (For that righteous man dwelling among them, in seeing and hearing, vexed [his] righteous soul from day to day with [their] unlawful deeds;) 2:9 The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished: 2:10 But chiefly them that walk after the flesh in the lust of uncleanness, and despise government. Presumptuous [are they], selfwilled, they are not afraid to speak evil of dignities. Rev. 22:14 Blessed [are] they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. 22:15 For without [are] dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie. Lev. 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it [is] abomination. 18:23 Neither shalt thou lie with any beast to defile thyself therewith: neither shall any woman stand before a beast to lie down thereto: it [is] confusion. 18:24 Defile not ye yourselves in any of these things: for in all these the nations are defiled which I cast out before you: 18:25 And the land is defiled: therefore I do visit the iniquity thereof upon it, and the land itself vomiteth out her inhabitants. 18:26 Ye shall therefore keep my statutes and my judgments, and shall not commit [any] of these abominations; [neither] any of your own nation, nor any stranger that sojourneth among you: 18:27 (For all these abominations have the men of the land done, which [were] before you, and the land is defiled;) 18:28 That the land spue not you out also, when ye defile it, as it spued out the nations that [were] before you. 18:29 For whosoever shall commit any of these abominations, even the souls that commit [them] shall be cut off from among their people. 18:30 Therefore shall ye keep mine ordinance, that [ye] commit not [any one] of these abominable customs, which were committed before you, and that ye defile not yourselves therein: I [am] the LORD your God. Eccl. 12:13 Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this [is] the whole [duty] of man. 12:14 For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether [it be] good, or whether [it be] evil. 1 John 3:2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 3:3 And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure. 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. 3:5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin. 3:6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him. 3:7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous. 3:8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. 3:10 In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother. John 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. 3:4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born? 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and [of] the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. 3:7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again. 3:8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit. 3:9 Nicodemus answered and said unto him, How can these things be? 3:10 Jesus answered and said unto him, Art thou a master of Israel, and knowest not these things? 3:11 Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness. 3:12 If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you [of] heavenly things? 3:13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, [even] the Son of man which is in heaven. 3:14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: 3:15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 3:19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 3:20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 3:21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God. Quote John 3:16-17 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. [17] For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him.
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