Prophets: True/False, how can we tell?

[Jody]

I agree with Barb, these verse are talking about people claiming to be Christ being in the desert etc. Christ has told us plainly how He will come the second time. Every eye will see Him. It will not be a secret. But it is interesting that He mentioned also false prophets. If there are false prophets at the end of time, then there must also be true prophets, and we should fear that in trying to avoid the false, we also shun the true.

[phkrause]

It is interesting that at the time that God called EGW to be his messenger to the SDA Church, that many false ones popped up also.

[ClubV12]

It's a valid point Jody, and phk!

A couple of hundred prophets in Ellen Whites time vieing for the title. :)

[Musicman1228]

If you will not wake up, I will come like a thief, and you will not know at what hour I will come against you. Rev. 3:3.

As the bridegroom was delayed, they all became drowsy and slept.   (6) But at midnight there was a cry, ‘Here is the bridegroom! Come out to meet him.’   (7) Then all those virgins rose and trimmed their lamps. Matt.25:5-7.

It appears that the 10 sleeping bridesmaids actually slept through and did not wake up for the coming of the Bridegroom, because He came as a thief in the middle of the night. It is also evident that this coming as a thief IS NOT the coming in the clouds where every eye shall see Him. If the coming described here is in fact the coming in the clouds the all 10 of the bridesmaids slept through something that everyone else on earth experienced, and that does not make sense.

[Sheila7]

I've just spent several hours reading through this thread. To refresh your memories, I am studying on line each week on Sabbath morning with what I consider to be the true church and this a profound movement that has heavens spiritual gifts of enlightenment in these last days. You do not have to believe me, you can go to any of the CSDA websites and seek these Biblical truths for yourselves. What you will find revealed there is important progressive revelation of increasing light which is promised by God to occur in these last days before our Lord and King returns.

The persons who choose not to believe that Pastor Chick is who and what he has boldly stated openly to be, thank God, still have your freedom to make that choice. Pastor Chick, and several of his members do NOT HAVE THEIR FREEDOM. The SDA GC legal department has taken that away from them. They are facing jail time and the list goes on and on. For what? They made their choice to follow the very Spirit of God and would not yield to corporate/court dictates to change what they fundamentally believe in their minds, souls, hearts and conscience to be the truth. Would you do that? Would you be displaced from your families, friends and work right now for your beliefs?

These CHRISTIANS, FOLLOWERS OF CHRIST, who you are calling a false prophet, etc. These men and women can be compared to the apostles & prophets of Christ's time who were persecuted in various ways. The SDA church is persecuting our fellow CHRISTIANS! THIS IS NOT CHRISTLIKE. IT IS EVIL. Most of you remind me of the scribes, & Pharisees who plotted against Jesus and His apostles, and His prophets out of fear. Fear that their positions in life would not be disturbed. Well, the modern awakening is here brought to you by a true prophet of God through His Holy Spirit. I find this very exciting and truly wonderful as it points to the closing of time on this earth.

Glory to God and His Blessed Son, Jesus Christ, soon to return to take His Children home.

[miz3]

I have not read that Pastor Chick is claiming to be Christ! Nor have I read that Pastor Chick is Christ and we should go and see him in the desert or anywhere else! Applying these scriptures above to Pastor Chick, based on what I have read in these threads, is a sad and disgusting stretch of the imagination.

You have advised me and several others to 'get out before it is too late!'. What are you asking me to get out of? My relationship with God? It is because of that relationship that I have received victory over known sin, which is what you seem to have keyed on to put my name in this list. If that causes me to be deceived, in your mind, I am sorry that you are deceived into thinking so.

Typical. You are reading only part of the text. Cults often do this.

Windsor is correct I was referring to the "false prophets".

pastorchick is a one of those "false prophets" spoken of in the Scripture I cited.

You are in grave danger and you don't even know it. pastorchick knows it but he doesn't care about you. He only cares about himself and he will use you anyway he can to make himself a big man! Of course he will disguise himself as he has, as an "angel of light". He will cleverly disguise his black sinful nature so you will not see it until too late.

[miz3]

Miz,

You are obviously (from your view) "in the know" (more than "most SDA and most people"). So, surely you have a goodly list of "such movements" that you have "seen" "end[ing] up bringing damage to poor innocent unknowing souls."

Provide that list please. Or, are you "avoiding?"

Yes!

I gave you list that you had asked for earlier and you have ignored that list in regard to those who preached and believed they had "overcome all known sin".

HMMM!

Since you ignored that list and did not say "you are correct, miz", why should another list now convince you.

You are well aware of such lists and who they are that have done damage to many young impressionable persons (not just in chronological age but also innocent by age).

[Pastor_Chick]

I gave you list that you had asked for earlier and you have ignored that list in regard to those who preached and believed they had "overcome all known sin".

HMMM!

Since you ignored that list and did not say "you are correct, miz", why should another list now convince you.

You are well aware of such lists and who they are that have done damage to many young impressionable persons (not just in chronological age but also innocent by age).

As Miz would say, "Typical 'cultist' answer." The truth of this matter is that Miz would like to be a "cult leader" but cannot manage to get a following.

"But whereunto shall I liken this generation? It is like unto children sitting in the markets, and calling unto their fellows, And saying, We have piped unto you, and ye have not danced; we have mourned unto you, and ye have not lamented." (Matt. 11:16, 17)

[Israfel]

Windsor and Miz3,

Do you know why you don't believe and speak the way you do? It is because you have not received the love of the truth to the saving of your soul so therefore you have received a reprobate mind, a spirit of delusion to be deceived by Satan.

I have followed all your comments and reasoning in this forum and the whole weight of it is based upon your own imaginings of the CSDA Church. (...) Did you know that the Jews said the same things about their own Messaih, "This could not be the Messiah..." and all the rest. And again "If we had been in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets." But you are their children said Jesus to them." Matt. 23:30

Now how do you know someone is telling the truth? You do like the humble Bereans who searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so." Matt. 17:11

But I see that you must be willing to receive truth before you can see truth. Said Jesus they that are whole need not a physian, and again Jesus said unto them, If ye were blind, ye should have no sin: but now ye say, We see; therefore your sin remaineth." Jn 9:41

(to be continued)

[Israfel]

I already told Miz3 about his, her condition but for you Windsor, it is never too late to turn around.

I have a testimony of the CSDA Church and particularly with Pastor Chick for whom you show so much hatred inspired unfortunately not by the Holy Spirit, but by the ennemy of souls.

Pastor Chick at the worse side of his human side is a gentleman. He is straightforward, meaning he will not hide the truth from you, from anyone. For that I am thankful to God. His pastored Church might have hundreds, if not thousands of people today, if not for that straight testimony (BTN when I was still in the SDA church some of us believed and were praiying for this straight testimony that would bring the final revival and would bring us to see our Lord. I wonder if this is still and aspiration of some in the church anymore?)

Indeed the CSDA Church might do wrong to the GC's tithe pocket, even then, this Church'name "Creation Seventh Day Adventist given by God, would not suffice to make us cease to use it. We cannot change or modify what God has precedence over, it is as his laws, unless he gives clear directions to do so.

"The name Seventh-day Adventist carries the true features of our faith in front, and will convict the inquiring mind. Like an arrow from the Lord's quiver, it will wound the transgressors of God's law, and will lead to repentance toward God and faith in our Lord Jesus Christ.{FLB 304.5}

"No name which we can take will be appropriate but that which accords with our profession, and expresses our faith, and marks us as a peculiar people.Our institutions have taken a name which sets forth the character of our faith, and of this name we are never to be ashamed. I have been shown that this name means much, and in adopting it we have followed the light given from heaven. 1895. {PH066 35.2

We are Seventh-day Adventists. Are we ashamed of our name? We answer, "No, no! We are not. It is the name the Lord has given us. It points out the truth that is to be the test of the churches."....That this may be, we must look ever to Jesus. {FLB 304.4}

(to be contd)

[Israfel]

Now how much rightheousness would be left in the Church without the Straight Testimony? Practically none and you would be right saying that our Movement will come to nouught, but we know the Scripture that says that if we are of God, you or the world over will not prevail against it." Acts 5:38,39 "The Ship of God's True Church on earth will go through"

Now I took a shortcut here which I believe was necessary,I will continue my testimony of Pastor Chick.

When I met the man, a couple of years ago, I remember my first impression was and I told it to him and everyone else "this is the man of God."

And I am not talking about doctrine wise only, but, what was most important to me, was that he practiced what he preached, his judgment and assesssment of things were so much out of the usual way I was accustomed to, around me and in the SDA church.

And I also remember, saying again and again to myself that this is truth and the true Church of God on earth. You should have seen my joy! Today, the good news is that I haven't stop saying it or testify of it to others. This Church has the Light borne from heaven for this generation that shall see the coming of the Lord.

While I am talking thus, you might be tempted to think that I am really deceived but I am not. Should the CSDA Church fall God forbid, and 'all' would know it! I would go back praying and asking God to reveal His Church to me again, and undoubtedly He would. No one claims infallibility in this Church, and Yahshua (Jesus) is the Head of His Church and has given authority to her to both judge and bind for heaven and for the fire.

I know that this is what the SDA's won't accept and it has become a marvelous thing in their eyes, but Yahweh is not a respecter of persons. He has made a new thing in this generation. Had the leaders of the SDA Church remained faithful, He would not have called the CSDA, the 11th hour workers, according to Matthew 20.

(to be contd)

[Israfel]

Hold, hold, hold, the angel of destruction is holding the winds of strife so that you could see and "come out of her my people" and come and serve God with a pure purpose, with an undevided heart and in the victory He offers you: unbroken, continual victory.

Will you let us pass by without seizing the blessing we carry from Him?

Turn to me, I’ll turn to you

With a love long overdue;

Visions, symbols make it plain

I’m jealous for your sake.

Hear my Angel and come forth

From your bondage in the North.

Sing, rejoice in freedom sweet;

Your captors I will shake.

The nail-prints go right through my hands,

Beauty and Bands remain.

Wounded in my friends’ own lands:

Beauty and Bands’ domain.

New robes shortly will be yours

As priests upon a glass sea’s shores,

As glowing brands from fire snatched;

My servants are like these.

They’ll sit with me upon my Throne,

Yea, all will be made sure as stone

By my Servant called the Branch,

A green vine ‘mongst dry trees.

The nail-prints go right through my hands,

Beauty and Bands remain.

Wounded in my friends’ own lands:

Beauty and Bands’ domain.

Olive trees spring from the soil,

A fiery Spirit flows like oil.

The idol-Shepherd leads astray,

But my flock hears my voice.

The Fountain makes you clean and pure,

Jerusalem, for evermore;

To drink and never thirst again,

Oh, quickly, quickly make your choice.

The nail-prints go right through my hands,

Beauty and Bands remain.

Wounded in my friends’ own lands:

Beauty and Bands’ domain.

Behold the flame-scorched battleground,

Where nations hear the trumpet sound.

But firmly planted will they be,

Who worship at my Temple there.

The scattered sheep again will flock

Around my City, Shepherd, Rock;

And they will ask me in that day

What are those vicious wounds you bear?

The nail-prints go right through my hands,

Beauty and Bands remain.

Wounded in my friends’ own lands:

Beauty and Bands’ domain.

And the memory still lingers,

As the blood drips down my fingers...

Mourn ye Tribes, for through my hands,

Time’s swift sands are slipping.

Nail-prints etch you in my hands:

Bands’ and Beauty gripping.

See with mournful eyes my face,

On this House I’ve poured my grace.

Sorrow for a firstborn Son...

Me, whom they have pierced.

(Inspired from the book of Zachariah)

[Windsor]

Windsor and Miz3,

Do you know why you don't believe and speak the way you do? It is because you have not received the love of the truth to the saving of your soul so therefore you have received a reprobate mind, a spirit of delusion to be deceived by Satan.

I have followed all your comments and reasoning in this forum and the whole weight of it is based upon your own imaginings of the CSDA Church. (...) Did you know that the Jews said the same things about their own Messaih, "This could not be the Messiah..." and all the rest. And again "If we had been in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets." But you are their children said Jesus to them." Matt. 23:30

Now how do you know someone is telling the truth? You do like the humble Bereans who searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so." Matt. 17:11

But I see that you must be willing to receive truth before you can see truth. Said Jesus they that are whole need not a physian, and again Jesus said unto them, If ye were blind, ye should have no sin: but now ye say, We see; therefore your sin remaineth." Jn 9:41

(to be continued)

No, it's because I believe the straight counsel given by Ellen White. I really don't know how else Ellen White could have written the following for it to finally open your mind to the truth that it's talking about people exactly like Pastor Chick. Seriously, how could it be any plainer?

"The present is a time of great peril to the people of God. God is leading out a people, not an individual here and there. He has a church on the earth, that abide in the truth; and when we see, not only men, but young girls, crying out against the church, we are afraid of them. We know God has not sent them, yet they ran, and all who do not accept their erratic ideas are denounced as warring against the Spirit of the Lord. All such things are in Satan’s line, but the work of God will go forward while there are now and ever will be those who work directly against the prayer of Christ. The work will advance, leaving them with their satanic inventions far behind."

[Israfel]

Now how much rightheousness would be left in the Church without the Straight Testimony? Practically none and you would be right saying that our Movement will come to nouught, but we know the Scripture that says that if we are of God, you or the world over will not prevail against it." Acts 5:38,39 "The Ship of God's True Church on earth will go through"

Now I took a shortcut here which I believe was necessary,I will continue my testimony of Pastor Chick.

When I met the man, a couple of years ago, I remember my first impression was and I told it to him and everyone else "this is the man of God."

And I am not talking about doctrine wise only, but, what was most important to me, was that he practiced what he preached, his judgment and assesssment of things were so much out of the usual way I was accustomed to, around me and in the SDA church.

And I also remember, saying again and again to myself that this is truth and the true Church of God on earth. You should have seen my joy! Today, the good news is that I haven't stop saying it or testify of it to others. This Church has the Light borne from heaven for this generation that shall see the coming of the Lord.

While I am talking thus, you might be tempted to think that I am really deceived but I am not. Should the CSDA Church fall God forbid, and 'all' would know it! I would go back praying and asking God to reveal His Church to me again, and undoubtedly He would. No one claims infallibility in this Church, and Yahshua (Jesus) is the Head of His Church and has given authority to her to both judge and bind for heaven and for the fire.

I know that this is what the SDA's won't accept and it has become a marvelous thing in their eyes, but Yahweh is not a respecter of persons. He has made a new thing in this generation. Had the leaders of the SDA Church remained faithful, He would not have called the CSDA, the 11th hour workers, according to Matthew 20.

(to be contd)

[skyblue888]

"The merits of Christ's sacrifice are SUFFICIENT to present to the Father in our behalf." The Father. (S.C.36)

Can the matter of salvation be made more simple?

It is no cheap grace that is received as we plead the merits of Christ's sacrifice in our behalf. It is the grace that brings salvation to all men since it is exceedingly abundant with faith and love that are in Christ Jesus. Titus 2:11; 1 Tim.2:14.

"This is the true grace of God in which you stand." 1 Peter 5;12.

This is the very message our Father in Heaven sent to us in 1888. It is that message in a nut-shell, and it is a "most precious message" which is to be received, believed, and acted upon.

If this message is resisted again, the church will seal her rejection of God's mercy and the message will go to all the world and it will swell into a loud cry.

sky

[Windsor]

Now I took a shortcut here which I believe was necessary,I will continue my testimony of Pastor Chick.

When I met the man, a couple of years ago, I remember my first impression was and I told it to him and everyone else "this is the man of God."

)

That's not good enough. There are people to this very day (according to a front page article on CNN a few months ago) that think David Koresh was Jesus.

[skyblue888]

The truth has a ring to it.

sky

[miz3]

Israfel,

You quote Ellen White concerning the name and how God gave it! Since God gave it we canNOT shrink from standing firm.

It is upon this Ellen White testimony that you now stand in regard to your CSDA name.

However, there is one striking difference between the SDA in Ellen's day and the CSDA church of today.

SDA DID NOT STEAL SOMEONE ELSE'S NAME!

CSDA DID STEAL SOMEONE ELES'S NAME!

HUGE DIFFERENCE!

[miz3]

Israfel,

God would NOT tell someone to steal. You are asserting that God told you to steal.

This is another reason why you are NOT a true church but a cult who breaks God's Law and then blasphemes His Name by saying that God told you to steal.

[skyblue888]

If we are willing to accept the merits of Jesus Christ and claim them as our own, this matter of the name of the church will take care of itself. That name can never save anyone. "There is salvation for you but only through the merits of Jesus Christ. The grace of the Holy Spirit has been (is being) offered to you again and again." T.M.97.

"Looking unto Jesus and trusting in His merits we appropriate the blessings of light and peace and joy in the Holy Spirit." 5 T 744.

Trusting in the meritorious name of Jesus Christ is what avails with God. Debating over who has a right to the name Seventh-day Adventist is futile.

sky

[Israfel]

Israfel,

You quote Ellen White concerning the name and how God gave it! Since God gave it we canNOT shrink from standing firm.

It is upon this Ellen White testimony that you now stand in regard to your CSDA name.

However, there is one striking difference between the SDA in Ellen's day and the CSDA church of today.

SDA DID NOT STEAL SOMEONE ELSE'S NAME!

CSDA DID STEAL SOMEONE ELES'S NAME!

HUGE DIFFERENCE!

Miz3 Miz3 Miz3,

Though I said my testimony to you was over, I feel compelled however to respond to these last two post, perhaps for the sake of the Elects.

You see Mrs. White said then :

Let the world go into spiritualism, into theosophy, into pantheism, if they choose. We are to have nothing to do with this deceptive branch of Satan's work.

The pleasing sentiments of pantheism will lead many souls into forbidden paths. God forbids His servants to leave their fields of labor to enter into a discussion of these sentiments.

The last Testimony published opens to our people the danger of these theories, and the Testimonies published in the future will urge still more strongly the necessity of lifting up and carrying high the banner on which are inscribed the words, "The commandments of God the faith of Jesus."

God's people are to let no one take this banner from their hands.

I am instructed that false theories will be presented, and that some in the medical missionary work, who have been wavering, will yield up the faith, and give heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of devils.

We have come to a time when God has been greatly dishonored. Those who have long known our belief, and what we teach, have been surprised by the statement that the Battle Creek Sanitarium is not denominational.

No one has a right to make this statement. It does not bear the witness that God wishes His people to bear before men, and angels.

In the name of the Lord we are to identify ourselves as Seventh-day Adventists.

If any one among us is ashamed of our colors, and wishes to stand under another banner, let him do so as a private individual, not as a representative of Seventh-day Adventist medical missionary work. {KC 74.3}[color:#3333FF][size:14pt]

I could have paraphrased this statement for you but I will let you put the context of today for yourself, since the quote is long enough.

Hope you see that "Seventh Day Adventist" is the name given to those bearing the Banner of Prince Emmanuel and that since we are keeping the Sabbath both spiritually, which is the most important, and, literally, and have the faith of Jesus Christ ( Righteousness by faith or victory over all known sins), we have more the right to it than the GC SDA denomination who have chosen the sword (spiritual REST or Sabbath) of the second beast,(the US legal system) to give them peace.

Hope you see that at least. We have stolen nothing, but have reclaimed the Inheritancewww.csda-adventist.to lost through unity with the 2nd Beast of Rev. 13.

[Israfel]

If we are willing to accept the merits of Jesus Christ and claim them as our own, this matter of the name of the church will take care of itself. That name can never save anyone. "There is salvation for you but only through the merits of Jesus Christ. The grace of the Holy Spirit has been (is being) offered to you again and again." T.M.97.

"Looking unto Jesus and trusting in His merits we appropriate the blessings of light and peace and joy in the Holy Spirit." 5 T 744.

Trusting in the meritorious name of Jesus Christ is what avails with God. Debating over who has a right to the name Seventh-day Adventist is futile.

sky

What is in a name?

http://www.trueremnantchurchofyah.info/sda_name.html

"God chose a people for himself, and gave them the name of Christian. This is a royal name, given to those who join themselves to Christ. It is of this name that James is speaking when he says, "Do not rich men oppress you, and draw you before the judgment seats? Do not they blaspheme that worthy name by the which ye are called?" And Peter says, "If any man suffer as a Christian, let him not be ashamed; but let him glorify God on this behalf." {RH, November 23, 1905 par. 1}

[miz3]

I could have paraphrased this statement for you but I will let you put the context of today for yourself, since the quote is long enough.

Hope you see that "Seventh Day Adventist" is the name given to those bearing the Banner of Prince Emmanuel and that since we are keeping the Sabbath both spiritually, which is the most important, and, literally, and have the faith of Jesus Christ ( Righteousness by faith or victory over all known sins), we have more the right to it than the GC SDA denomination who have chosen the sword (spiritual REST or Sabbath) of the second beast,(the US legal system) to give them peace.

Hope you see that at least. We have stolen nothing, but have reclaimed the Inheritancewww.csda-adventist.to lost through unity with the 2nd Beast of Rev. 13.

You claim to have more right to the "NAME" than anyone else. Unfortunately for you that "NAME"

BELONGS TO SOMEONE ELSE

As such:

When you take something that belongs to someone else it is called by God:

STEALING!

Since you are thieves then it is also impossible for you, Israfel and all the other CSDA group to have "overcome all known sin". You have sinned and you have sinned openly and blatantly.

You have by your STEALING committed what is clearly KNOWN SIN!

If everyone acted as you are stating:

in that you are more worthy of ownership then stealing someone's car would not be a crime and it is. Just thinking you are more worthy is NOT good enough for God and it is not good enough for the Law of the Land.

The problem for you is God gave the name Seventh Day Adventist to another group. As such it is not yours to STEAL. God has never taken that name away from SDA and so by all measures in Heaven and on Earth you at CSDA:

ARE THIEVES!

[miz3]

Israfel,

Throwing Ellen White quotes at the issue does nothing to change the fact that the CSDA are:

STEALING!

[Israfel]

Originally Posted By: Israfel

I could have paraphrased this statement for you but I will let you put the context of today for yourself, since the quote is long enough.

Hope you see that "Seventh Day Adventist" is the name given to those bearing the Banner of Prince Emmanuel and that since we are keeping the Sabbath both spiritually, which is the most important, and, literally, and have the faith of Jesus Christ ( Righteousness by faith or victory over all known sins), we have more the right to it than the GC SDA denomination who have chosen the sword (spiritual REST or Sabbath) of the second beast,(the US legal system) to give them peace.

Hope you see that at least. We have stolen nothing, but have reclaimed the Inheritancewww.csda-adventist.to lost through unity with the 2nd Beast of Rev. 13.

You claim to have more right to the "NAME" than anyone else. Unfortunately for you that "NAME"

BELONGS TO SOMEONE ELSE

As such:

When you take something that belongs to someone else it is called by God:

STEALING!

Since you are thieves then it is also impossible for you, Israfel and all the other CSDA group to have "overcome all known sin". You have sinned and you have sinned openly and blatantly.

You have by your STEALING committed what is clearly KNOWN SIN!

If everyone acted as you are stating:

in that you are more worthy of ownership then stealing someone's car would not be a crime and it is. Just thinking you are more worthy is NOT good enough for God and it is not good enough for the Law of the Land.

The problem for you is God gave the name Seventh Day Adventist to another group. As such it is not yours to STEAL. God has never taken that name away from SDA and so by all measures in Heaven and on Earth you at CSDA:

ARE THIEVES!

Miz3, again I will take some time for you here since you seem not understanding the CSDA position at all and it is unfortunate.

I said that we have more right to the name, just like the Reformers were more entitled to the name Christian than the Roman papal church that was persecuting them, do you see that? Jesus was doubly the Son of God by the life he lived than the Jews that were repudiating Him.

When Martin Luther went and nailed his Theses on the church's door in Wittemberg, he could have not provoked the ire of the beast but he had his God' given duty to do and consequences did not relent him. In the same way the CSDA Church, since they are more worthy of the calling than has become the last Church called, thus showing more honor for God then the SDA GC controlled organization, God has chosen her.

Hope you get me more clearly.

Now as for the claim of victory over all known sins, what is so marvelous in your eyes? Yahshua came in our flesh and lived a sinless life. He claimed sinlesness, and he will for his children to be pure, and perfect even as our Father in heaven is perfect. The whole law and the prophets were hung upon RIGHTEOUSNESS BY FAITH. Israel had to trust in God and accept His salvation to live a sinless life and have victory over their enemies. What did it say of Abraham? He believed (trust)God and it was accounted to him as Righteousness" Victory over sin, all known sins and repeated ignorant ones is mentioned all through the Bible.

And I hope you understand that we are not claiming holy flesh but the same victory that you claimed when you got into the SDA church except that we let it become a integral day to day part of our life, just as Yahshua did. My food is to do the will of Him who sent me." Jn 4:34

Why does the plain scripture takes on a mysterious meaning to you Miz3?

What does all these saying to you? How do you understand them? Shall we make God a liar?

1Jn 3:9 " Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God."

1 Jn 5:18 "We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not."

Romans 6:3 "What shall we say, then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase? 2 By no means! We are those who have died to sin; how can we live in it any longer?"

Furthermore Mrs. White says:

"This probationary life is given to bring man back to this perfection which is to be the character of all who shall be saved. The law of God is a reflection of His character.--Letter 46, March 22, 1900, to David Steed, an Australian believer. {TDG 90.5}

for when Christ shall come in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory, we must be all ready to be changed in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, and to be caught up to meet the Lord in the air. Your only safety is in coming to Christ, and ceasing from sin this very moment. {ST, August 29, 1892 par. 5}

Search the Scriptures, examine your own hearts, meditate, pray, till you realize, by vivid conviction, your true state, till you see the peril which threatens you. Never rest till you know beyond all controversy that you have been transformed by the spirit of Christ; till you have clear evidence that you have been born again. Never rest till you know that Christ abideth in you. It will be vain for you to hope to meet the approval of God, until you come up to the Bible standard. The Spirit testifies with our spirit that we are children of God" {RH, November 7, 1882 par. 17}

Not even by a thought could Christ be brought to yield to the power of temptation. . . . Christ declared of Himself, "The prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me." {FLB 49.6}

Jesus did not allow the enemy to pull Him into the mire of unbelief, or crowd Him into the mire of despondency and despair." {FLB 49.7}

"Christ's humanity was united with divinity, and in this strength He would bear all the temptations that Satan could bring against Him, and yet keep His soul untainted by sin. And this power to overcome He would give to every son and daughter of Adam who would accept by faith the righteous attributes of His character." 50{FLB 49.8}