Modesty - what do you guys think?

[doug yowell]

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....woman dresses in a sexually alluring way and it triggers an impure thought in a man's mind it's the moral equivalent of his being a rapist??

May I loan you some glasses....you seem to reading something that was not said. I will try to make it plainer for you......it's about making it the women's fault!!

Read your own post...'alluring women triggers impure thought'....change the thought patterns! Isn't that what belief in Christ brings about??????

So if I'm outside mowing my yard, thinking about how much work I need to do on trimming my trees and a couple of attractive (or not) girls dressed(??)in their thongs,walk up and ask me if I have seen their lost dog,that it's my fault for having to fight a battle with my thoughts? The fact is that men are now forced to fight a battle that they did not willingly pick because of the indescretions or insensitivities of someone else.

[ClubV12]

Woody, I recall something similiar to that concerning wigs.

[CoAspen]

The fact is that men are now forced to fight a battle that they did not willingly pick because of the indescretions or insensitivities of someone else.

Ahhhhh.....thats life!!! Not a perfect world!!! Women do not have it any easier, don't see them complaining!!!

Best to move on.

[Woody]

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So if I'm outside mowing my yard, thinking about how much work I need to do on trimming my trees and a couple of attractive (or not) girls dressed(??)in their thongs,walk up and ask me if I have seen their lost dog,that it's my fault for having to fight a battle with my thoughts? The fact is that men are now forced to fight a battle that they did not willingly pick because of the indescretions or insensitivities of someone else.

Doug. If you don't like how you feel when tempted ... simply ask God to remove that part of your male psycy so that you have victory from it. From what I understand ... God will remove all impurities from you and make you whole if only you want.

Now if you have done that and you still have that male psycy ... then it ain't YOUR fault. You've done YOUR part by asking the only person who can give you victory. It is now God's problem. No longer feel guilty.

[Dr. Shane]

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"Because it is the fashion, many females place over their breasts paddings, to give the form the appearance of well-developed breasts... " {HR, September 1, 1871 par. 4}

Ellen White obviously ahead of her day. Everyone now knows the pads go under the breasts - to lift them up - not over the breasts.

[cricket]

Everyone? I mean, everyone??

[Gerr]

Woody:

Doug. If you don't like how you feel when tempted ... simply ask God to remove that part of your male psycy so that you have victory from it. From what I understand ... God will remove all impurities from you and make you whole if only you want.

You want God to caponize Doug?

[Woody]

Woody:

Doug. If you don't like how you feel when tempted ... simply ask God to remove that part of your male psycy so that you have victory from it. From what I understand ... God will remove all impurities from you and make you whole if only you want.

You want God to caponize Doug?

That particular solution would be between God and Doug.

[doug yowell]

I think we're mixing modesty with health. Wouldn't it be healthier to go without any unnatural(au naturale)encumberences?

[doug yowell]

Woody:

Doug. If you don't like how you feel when tempted ... simply ask God to remove that part of your male psycy so that you have victory from it. From what I understand ... God will remove all impurities from you and make you whole if only you want.

You want God to caponize Doug?

It might start a trend that would spill over to every temptation every experienced. How bout removing the source of temptation. "Offences must come but woe to ..."

[Woody]

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. How bout removing the source of temptation.

I guess one could become a monk and never lay eyes on a woman.

[doug yowell]

The fact is that men are now forced to fight a battle that they did not willingly pick because of the indescretions or insensitivities of someone else.

Ahhhhh.....thats life!!! Not a perfect world!!! Women do not have it any easier, don't see them complaining!!!

I think you're referring to a parallel imperfect world. I'll remember this comment when I read about the next sexual harassment lawsuit.

[doug yowell]

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. How bout removing the source of temptation.

I guess one could become a monk and never lay eyes on a woman.

That might work.

[Woody]

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That might work.

Praise God we've found a solution for this sin. Do you think it might work for other sins?

[CoAspen]

Originally Posted By: CoAspen

The fact is that men are now forced to fight a battle that they did not willingly pick because of the indescretions or insensitivities of someone else.

Ahhhhh.....thats life!!! Not a perfect world!!! Women do not have it any easier, don't see them complaining!!!

I think you're referring to a parallel imperfect world. I'll remember this comment when I read about the next sexual harassment lawsuit.

So a women walking down the street that you find visualy stimulating is harassing you???? Dude, you need some very narrow field of view blinders!!!

[ClubV12]

Well it DOES depend on how she is dressed!

In some cases I would indeed consider it harassement, if not illegal depending on the extreme, the time and the place.

Teeny bikini at the mall? You might be asked to leave, for harassing people, possibly be aressted for public nudity. At the beach? Might be OK, depends on the bikini. Hawaii has laws that address the teeny bikini issue, cross the line and you could be arrested.

Societys standards are SO far below God's standard of acceptable modesty it is difficult for many to even understand the problem. What is God's standard? Well pretty much everything that has been suggested here as a "BASE LINE" for modesty has been rejected. Apparently some women don't even grasp the problem and want to pretend it doesn't exist. To which I would say, "Tell it to the Judge", what ever Judge you may abide under. Civil if you push it to far, or Heavenly if you have a clue.

[cricket]

To which I will add that some men do not even grasp the problem and want to pretend that modesty for men does not exist.

Quick question: Any of you men here go swimming in public without a shirt on? Or, mow a lawn, barbeque, jog, wash the car, et cetera--while shirtless?

[Dr. Shane]

Wouldn't it be healthier to go without any unnatural(au naturale)encumberences?

I guess it depends on how far we want to take it. Do we say no dying hair? How about trimming fingernails? Is shaving OK or do we need to let the beard be "natural". How fancy are we allowed to have the buttons on our shirts? Only plain white socks allowed?

[ClubV12]

I was working at a construction site one summer, it was hot. I removed my shirt and was immediately told to put it back on, not allowed! That was many years ago too.

[cricket]

I, for one, am glad that it was not allowed.

[Woody]

I, for one, am glad that it was not allowed.

Is that just for ClubV or would you mind if I took mine off?

[Gerr]

Originally Posted By: cricket

I, for one, am glad that it was not allowed.

Is that just for ClubV or would you mind if I took mine off?

Music please.

[Bravus]

Heh, I'm under no illusions that my chubby, hairy white chest would elicit moans if it were revealed. Groans, yeah...

[Gerr]

If you are talking about Great Lakes Grandma's white hairy chest, you're in trouble!!!

[Woody]

If you are talking about Great Lakes Grandma's white hairy chest, you're in trouble!!!

Why are we discussing GLG's hairy chest? I sincerely doubt that she has a hairy chest let alone a white one. I think it best that we not discuss her chest.