Everyone will speak Spanish in heaven???

[Dr. Shane]

and you say there are no homeless children out there and that if there are, it is drug addicts and mentally ill????

That my friend is stereotyping if I ever saw it.

Again, we run into the issue of definitions. In America, children living in a shelter with their mother are considered homeless. These children go to school, get medical attention and are fed three times a day.

In Mexico homeless children live on the street and beg for money. The sleep in allies, parks and abandoned buildings. They don't go to school, get medical attention and often go days without eating.

I was a homeless child myself because I ran away from home when I was 14. I was an alcoholic and drug addict. I didn't go to school nor receive medical attention. I ate out of dumpsters.

I understand what homeless is. I've been there, done that.

[Dr. Shane]

That cheap labor is saving the average household in California far more than $1,183 each year in their grocery bill alone. Then there is the cheap restaurant labor. The cheap landscaping labor. The cheap cleaning labor. Sounds like those in California are getting a real deal.

[Dr. Shane]

Perhaps in 50 years Spanish will become the official language of the USA.

I don't think the US will ever have an official language. That is one of the reasons immigrants don't scare me. The difference between Mexico and the US is our form of government. Most Mexicans that come here love their culture but are fleeing their government. Mexico is a very wealthy nation but corruption keeps the wealth in the hands of only a few. America is the land of opportunity and Mexicans coming here are not looking to change the US to be more like Mexico. As long as our form of government remains as it has been, the US will continue to prosper regardless what its racial make-up is.

[bonnie]

I don't think the US will ever have an official language. That is one of the reasons immigrants don't scare me.

[Dr. Shane]

Explain to me what is prejudice in your view about asking immigrants to learn the language for better job possibilities etc.

[Ellen]

It seems to be only English speaking people who dig their heels in and refuse to learn another language and think all other language speaking people should learn English because it is the international language.

There's no question that Adam and Eve didn't speak English, neither did Jesus or his desciples.

At campmeeeting one of the new ministers being ordained was from one of the slavic countries and the speaker asked if he said his name correctly. The minister said he almost got it right. Then the speaker said a greeting in his language. It went over so well. I won't forget it.

You hear spanish on the messages, we hear french - handle it.

[bonnie]

It seems to be only English speaking people who dig their heels in and refuse to learn another language and think all other language speaking people should learn English because it is the international language.

There's no question that Adam and Eve didn't speak English, neither did Jesus or his desciples.

At campmeeeting one of the new ministers being ordained was from one of the slavic countries and the speaker asked if he said his name correctly. The minister said he almost got it right. Then the speaker said a greeting in his language. It went over so well. I won't forget it.

You hear spanish on the messages, we hear french - handle it.

Wishing for the non english speaking immigrant to learn english is not a matter of digging in your heels.

Most employment is "english required"What they speak at home or among their own is their business.The idea that english speaking companies should learn and offer employment in another language.

What language Adam and Eve spoke or what language Christ spoke hasn't anything to do with the current situation.

If I hear spanish or french on messages it means the taxpayer is not taking care of them.

This has what to do with most employment?.........

The minister said he almost got it right. Then the speaker said a greeting in his language. It went over so well. I won't forget it.

You seem to be asking for a employer to be proficient in the language of all applicants.

My brother employed over 50 employee's.ALL needed to speak and understand english.

The home improvement company I worked at employed only english speaking.There were good reasons for that.

That is true for most employer's

[Dr. Shane]

My brother employed over 50 employee's.ALL needed to speak and understand english.

Of course his competitor got smart and hired a foreman that was bilingual. That way he was able to hire a lot of skilled labor from the Spanish-speaking community. They didn't require a benefit package and would work longer hours. As a result while Bonnie's brother was crying over the state of the economy, his competitor was laughing all the way to the bank.

[bonnie]

Compassion conservatives are the ones providing free ESL classes for immigrants. The cold-hearted conservatives would rather starve them to death.

[bonnie]

Of course his competitor got smart and hired a foreman that was bilingual. That way he was able to hire a lot of skilled labor from the Spanish-speaking community. They didn't require a benefit package and would work longer hours. As a result while Bonnie's brother was crying over the state of the economy, his competitor was laughing all the way to the bank.

You are amazing Shane. God has given you such insite. Hate to share with you that you are wrong.

For the safety of all concerned english was mandatory.My brother had many jobs going at once.According to you there should be a translator on all jobs covering all language.There really is no way to do that.

On a large job a spanish speaking immigrant could be on one end and the translator on another.No one can or will hire a translator to follow all non english speaking employee.

His competitors didn't do anything of the sort.You may not have a problem putting employee's at risk but most would.

Steel erectin is a job that requires being able to understand the instructions.You seem to make up "facts" as you go along.

As for his competitors laughing all the way to the bank because they hired translators,a little doubtful.

In your "wisdom" how would you hire a spanish speaking translator and he would be needed on several sites in several different places on those sites.

Understanding between co-workers is a must. If rules are not followed and communication is not good,often time someone will die. But at least there was a translator somewhere

[Outta Here]

Pay special attention at 1:53

[Outta Here]

And no--that wasn't directed at anyone in particular. I just hit the quick reply button.

[Liz]

Thanks for sharing that Aubrey, "My Fair Lady" is one of my favorites.

[Renewed_faith]

I see you have not clicked on nor read any of the links I gave you in the post before.

So, here is yet another one for you if you should choose to open your eyes and actually read it.

If you would like,I can go through many many more articles on the web and post them here for you or just the link to educate you and show you just how much "love" they should be getting.

America's Forgotten Children

Homeless and Street Youth

By Andreana Reeves

Poverty and homelessness in America is an obvious and disturbing issue. But what is less obvious and even more disturbing is that a great majority of the poor and homeless are teens and children. In the U.S., one out of every four homeless individuals is a child. Despite this population’s very real existence, they do not exist to many people.

Whenever there is a school shooting, the media inundates us with images of the event for weeks after it happens. Yet the public never hears about the 13 children who die on the streets every day (Stand Up for Kids). Few realize how serious the problem is because they rarely see homeless kids, nor do they hear about their struggles.

Homeless teens and children are a particularly hidden population because they do not want to be returned to their homes. The majority of them come from homes of extreme poverty or horrible abuse, and tend to hide in alleys, under bridges, and other unseen places. In fact, as many as 92% of homeless youth were physically or sexually abused in their homes (Better Homes Fund). It is easy to overlook such an invisible population, but the problem has reached catastrophic proportions.

Currently there are 1.3 million homeless and runaway street kids in the United States (Stand Up for Kids). These numbers only include reported runaways, and do not account for children who were forced out of their homes, abandoned by the foster care system, or are part of a homeless family.

The problem is especially critical because little is being done to address the situation. Homeless children often have few resources at their disposal, rendering them helpless and alone. While much discussion centers on helping homeless adults, homeless children are often overlooked.

Oftentimes, people may be reluctant to help these kids because they fear encouraging their “misbehavior” or keeping them from returning home. Homeless kids are perceived as delinquent teenagers who have run away from home because they refuse to follow rules or feel they can take care of themselves.

Alarmingly, the average age of a homeless person in the United States is nine (Institute of Children and Poverty). There are in fact many kids below the age of nine on the streets, some with their families but most trying to survive on their own. Unable to support themselves with a job, children so young have very few options. Many have to resort to prostitution, stealing, or selling drugs just to eat every day. Stand Up for Kids, an organization that provides necessities for homeless youth, and volunteers who are willing to listen to their problems, reports that almost half of the children on the streets turn to prostitution within 48 hours of leaving home.

In addition to the necessity of finding food, homeless teens and children face constant police hassling and the threat of physical and sexual assault. One study found that 60% of youth on the streets have been raped or assaulted (Youth Care). Homeless youth must face all the difficulties homeless adults do, but are more helpless and lacking in maturity.

In addition to Stand Up for Kids, there are a few organizations that reach out to homeless and street kids, like Kidsacks in Cleveland, which gives sleeping bags to homeless kids. Both of these organizations and a few others focus on giving kids what they need and assuring them that someone cares. Other organizations like Hamilton Transitional Housing Program in San Francisco focus on homeless families and enrichment for the children of these families. Despite the efforts of these organizations, much still needs to be done to help homeless teens and children. And until there are no children on the streets, there will always be more to be done.

[Renewed_faith]

Here is another link to an article

http://factoidz.com/the-street-kids-of-anytown-usa/

[bonnie]

Here is another link to an article

http://factoidz.com/the-street-kids-of-anytown-usa/

The problem is as US taxpayers we fall under the scorn and judgment if we believe they should try to help themselves.

Believing they should learn the language so they can be employed is an act of "genocide" done by cold hearted conservatives that wish for them to die

[Renewed_faith]

Thank you Bonnie for at least opening the link and reading what the article was about. For some when I post links or articles it would seem they just skim over it to see what would make their point valid and if there was nothing then ridicule is prevalent to those whom have posted it.

I could have posted an article to whatever and it would seem the name calling by some would still continue because they have not opened the link/s to at least read what was posted.

It is a fact that if one does not learn to communicate in English here it is hard if not impossible to get anywhere in America. It is fact that here in America there is an alarming rate of HOMELESSNESS among our children and families that is growing each and every 24 hours. It is fact that if people do not help themselves there will be no one there to help them except if WE as taxpayers help them. However, our money is going out of the country to help others as we lose our own.

What a catastrophic neglect we are doing on our own in America

[rudywoofs (Pam)]

Originally Posted By: bonnie

My brother employed over 50 employee's.ALL needed to speak and understand english.

Of course his competitor got smart and hired a foreman that was bilingual. That way he was able to hire a lot of skilled labor from the Spanish-speaking community. They didn't require a benefit package and would work longer hours. As a result while Bonnie's brother was crying over the state of the economy, his competitor was laughing all the way to the bank.

Skilled labor from Spanish-only-speaking community??? I have yet to see any hispanic who has skilled labor in America who does not speak English.

Yeah, they didn't require a benefit package because they use American tax dollars for free services and food because they lie to the agencies who dole out the money and food stamps. Who needs company perks when you can get it for free. And claim ignorance as an excuse?

Illegal aliens use fake ID and fake SS numbers's. They're very good at it. Maybe that's what you consider to be "skilled labor."

[Renewed_faith]

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Skilled labor from Spanish-only-speaking community??? I have yet to see any hispanic who has skilled labor in America who does not speak English.

Yeah, they didn't require a benefit package because they use American tax dollars for free services and food because they lie to the agencies who dole out the money and food stamps. Who needs company perks when you can get it for free. And claim ignorance as an excuse?

Illegal aliens use fake ID and fake SS numbers's. They're very good at it. Maybe that's what you consider to be "skilled labor."

amen!!!!!

[Guest]

Amen again!!!

[doug yowell]

Si!!

[bonnie]

Of course his competitor got smart and hired a foreman that was bilingual. That way he was able to hire a lot of skilled labor from the Spanish-speaking community. They didn't require a benefit package and would work longer hours. As a result while Bonnie's brother was crying over the state of the economy, his competitor was laughing all the way to the bank.

Shanes comment concerning my brother borders on the ridiculous. Have you ever watched a steel erection crew at work.It is dangerous work. Accidents are more likely to end in death than just injuries.

Most employer's in this business know that following instruction and being able to communicate for safety reasons is essential for the safety of their employee's

A translator at the other side of the job is worthless.

Nor was my brother crying over the state of the economy. He is of retirement age and decided it was not worth it to keep the business going.

Those that think like Shane may hire a translator and feel a little superior to the lesser class,but putting workers at risk is something most employer's don't want to do.

Skilled labor from Spanish-only-speaking community??? I have yet to see any hispanic who has skilled labor in America who does not speak English.

Yeah, they didn't require a benefit package because they use American tax dollars for free services and food because they lie to the agencies who dole out the money and food stamps. Who needs company perks when you can get it for free. And claim ignorance as an excuse?

Illegal aliens use fake ID and fake SS numbers's. They're very good at it. Maybe that's what you consider to be "skilled labor."

[bonnie]

Thank you Bonnie for at least opening the link and reading what the article was about. For some when I post links or articles it would seem they just skim over it to see what would make their point valid and if there was nothing then ridicule is prevalent to those whom have posted it.

I could have posted an article to whatever and it would seem the name calling by some would still continue because they have not opened the link/s to at least read what was posted.

It is a fact that if one does not learn to communicate in English here it is hard if not impossible to get anywhere in America. It is fact that here in America there is an alarming rate of HOMELESSNESS among our children and families that is growing each and every 24 hours. It is fact that if people do not help themselves there will be no one there to help them except if WE as taxpayers help them. However, our money is going out of the country to help others as we lose our own.

What a catastrophic neglect we are doing on our own in America

Some don't view it so much name calling as their "God given right to judge others"

Our homeless are not immigrants and they speak english.The focus must be on immigrants that flat out refuse to help themselves with free help from the US.If it comes to the loss of homes for those on fixed incomes that is only fair and just. Asking those coming here to learn english is a sin of gigantic proportions

[doug yowell]

Originally Posted By: bonnie

My brother employed over 50 employee's.ALL needed to speak and understand english.

Of course his competitor got smart and hired a foreman that was bilingual. That way he was able to hire a lot of skilled labor from the Spanish-speaking community. They didn't require a benefit package and would work longer hours. As a result while Bonnie's brother was crying over the state of the economy, his competitor was laughing all the way to the bank.

Yes,that's what most crooks do when they scam the law. I wonder how his cheating competitor and his Spanish speaking illegals would react if,in response,Bonnie's brother had brought in 50 illegals from Viet Nam and paid them even less than the Border Brothers were making? How bout shipping in 2or3 million "skilled workers" from Bangledesh at half the price?I'll bet a higher % of them speak English.

[rudywoofs (Pam)]

It seems to be only English speaking people who dig their heels in and refuse to learn another language and think all other language speaking people should learn English because it is the international language.

I didn't see anyone saying that all people worldwide should learn English. Why do you speak English?

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There's no question that Adam and Eve didn't speak English, neither did Jesus or his desciples.

I didn't realize you were in the Garden of Eden. huh....

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At campmeeeting one of the new ministers being ordained was from one of the slavic countries and the speaker asked if he said his name correctly. The minister said he almost got it right. Then the speaker said a greeting in his language. It went over so well. I won't forget it.

He was ordained in English, yes? So what's your point?

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You hear spanish on the messages, we hear french - handle it.

That doesn't even deserve an answer.

Originally Posted By: Ellen

There's no question that Adam and Eve didn't speak English

I didn't realize you were in the Garden of Eden and had such knowledge.